(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi] PW[TORONTO]PB[ylca]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2008-05-01]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign] ;B[pd]BL[3597.637] ;W[pp]WL[3597.881]C[ylca [4d\]: hi TORONTO [4d\]: hi ] ;B[ce]BL[3586.996] ;W[dp]WL[3591.896] ;B[cn]BL[3582.828] ;W[fp]WL[3587.216] ;B[dk]BL[3580.237] ;W[ed]WL[3585.015] ;B[ee]BL[3576.967] ;W[fe]WL[3580.605]C[sedgwick [4d\]: Liang Yu like's the e15 move sedgwick [4d\]: He play this with me in Winter Cup ] ;B[ef]BL[3448.534] ;W[dd]WL[3532.339]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 这个 有 研究? ylca [4d\]: no ] (;B[fd]BL[3439.191]C[chenghappy [5d?\]: i never seen f16 before TORONTO [4d\]: give tigercathy contral rights ] (;W[cd]WL[3481.294]C[ylca [4d\]: hehe, seanpu [5d\]: ylca, 你很强,下次向你请教一盘 ] ;B[fc]BL[3422.008] ;W[bf]WL[3459.236]C[Principito [3d\]: ive never seen b14 ^^ Principito [3d\]: looks nice tho Tigercathy [?\]: 实战白棋有点苦吧 ] ;B[ge]BL[3395.418] ;W[ff]WL[3439.468] ;B[eg]BL[3391.751] ;W[gf]WL[3437.97] ;B[be]BL[3384.561]C[sedgwick [4d\]: they are play fast for such a complicated position Principito [3d\]: w played too fast? ] ;W[eb]WL[3421.214]C[Principito [3d\]: h15 Principito [3d\]: looks so bad for w mimi [5d\]: 老师好 seanpu [5d\]: b14恐怕太追求了,我觉得不好 TORONTO [4d\]: 次序错了 ylca [4d\]: 黑还能不能更严厉? Tigercathy [?\]: 怎么错了 seanpu [5d\]: 请范老师指点 ] (;B[bd]BL[3309.345] ;W[fb]WL[3396.725] ;B[hc]BL[3293.577]C[seanpu [5d\]: 老师好 TORONTO [4d\]: before b14,I should do d15 ylca [4d\]: 是 seanpu [5d\]: ylca这里是他的三板虎,他每盘黑棋都来这个 ylca [4d\]: 哈哈哈 ] ;W[bc]WL[3363.502]C[mariosbank [2d?\]: 老师好 Principito [3d\]: d15? Tigercathy [?\]: 大家好 Principito [3d\]: or b19? Principito [3d\]: b18* ylca [4d\]: 这招砍了Eric ] ;B[cf]BL[3138.712]C[ylca [4d\]: 米国的8段 ] ;W[he]WL[3357.379]C[seanpu [5d\]: 所以老杨跟他下,他下就挂 ] ;B[hd]BL[3135.656] ;W[gd]WL[3344.43]C[Principito [3d\]: ? ] ;B[gc]BL[3127.302]C[sedgwick [4d\]: Why ?:) Principito [3d\]: d15 better than c14 Principito [3d\]: no? sedgwick [4d\]: no Principito [3d\]: y not sedgwick [4d\]: then b14 alot of aji Principito [3d\]: c 15 puts mro0e pressure ] ;W[je]WL[3315.286]C[mimi [5d\]: leaves B18 too Majorum [2d\]: well, you would have to read if reducing white's liberty actually does anything worthwhile Principito [3d\]: it does sedgwick [4d\]: doesn't b18 work anyway Principito [3d\]: w would be able ot play b18 and kill Principito [3d\]: dont tihnk so EllenPage [1k\]: B lost already sedgwick [4d\]: sorry, you are right Tigercathy [?\]: 这样白棋逃过一劫 TORONTO [4d\]: yes Tigercathy [?\]: 不过还是 黑棋好 下 ] ;B[kc]BL[3069.935]C[mimi [5d\]: i mean, C14 does not force white to fix b18 ] ;W[cb]WL[3258.336]C[Principito [3d\]: game looks playable ] ;B[gh]BL[3038.725] ;W[le]WL[3245.35]C[Principito [3d\]: hm Principito [3d\]: g12 wrong direction? TORONTO [4d\]: black good ] ;B[kd]BL[2952.675] ;W[ke]WL[3230.589] ;B[md]BL[2948.972]C[Principito [3d\]: b got some very solid cash... ] ;W[jh]WL[3001.369] ;B[qn]BL[2824.084] ;W[nq]WL[2996.719] (;B[qd]BL[2819.054] ;W[fj]WL[2990.279] ;B[ei]BL[2812.487] ;W[qo]WL[2965.593] ;B[pj]BL[2808.156]C[ylca [4d\]: 我最怕别人四角穿心,似乎没有赢过 ] ;W[pn]WL[2962.87]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 问题是这样白棋的 右下一带很大呀 ] ;B[hq]BL[2804.463] ;W[jq]WL[2956.107] ;B[ho]BL[2799.763] ;W[fn]WL[2954.437]C[mimi [5d\]: such a fast game ylca [4d\]: 是太大了点 seanpu [5d\]: r5 and q6太缓吧 ] ;B[jo]BL[2785.501]C[TORONTO [4d\]: black still go ahead seanpu [5d\]: 范老师的棋就是厚 Tigercathy [?\]: 这个什么意思呀 ylca [4d\]: 想走厚, 觉得领先了 Tigercathy [?\]: 黑棋好是 因为开局白棋落后了 ylca [4d\]: 怕死嘛 ] ;W[lq]WL[2938.009] ;B[qq]BL[2768.36]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 我 说这个有点奇怪 ylca [4d\]: 没有意义的棋,是不是? Tigercathy [?\]: 是,相反还有点 损 ylca [4d\]: 嗯 ] ;W[rp]WL[2932.636]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 很 厚实,可以 下 ] ;B[kr]BL[2765.316]C[seanpu [5d\]: ylca态度不端正,当范老师下手处理 ylca [4d\]: 没有呀, 一直怕,才下成这样 Tigercathy [?\]: 如果想直接做活那就 直接下,不用 这样交换的 ] ;W[kq]WL[2924.197] ;B[jj]BL[2750.618] ;W[nf]WL[2772.449]C[Principito [3d\]: yes mimi [5d\]: territorial styles are irritating.... i hope fan wins :P seanpu [5d\]: 范老师,下次狠点让他知道厉害 seanpu [5d\]: tigerwei比ylca跟善战 ylca [4d\]: 俺现在不怕他拉 ] (;B[oe]BL[2610.338] ;W[hm]WL[2701.81] ;B[fr]BL[2581.607]C[Principito [3d\]: fan? ] ;W[eq]WL[2650.255] ;B[er]BL[2546.037] ;W[dr]WL[2646.801] ;B[cq]BL[2543.373] ;W[cp]WL[2645.506] (;B[iq]BL[2526.133] ;W[jr]WL[2641.057] ;B[cr]BL[2522.738] ;W[dq]WL[2637.582] ;B[ds]BL[2519.854] ;W[cl]WL[2602.86]C[ylca [4d\]: 觉得活就赢,其实从这里开始失败 Tigercathy [?\]: 这下你说对了 Tigercathy [?\]: 这里黑棋 亏了 不少 seanpu [5d\]: 活了的确领先了 Tigercathy [?\]: 但局面接近了 呀 ] ;B[ck]BL[2509.47]C[Principito [3d\]: such a hard game for w mimi [5d\]: toronto = Mr. Fan ] ;W[bq]WL[2524.896]C[Principito [3d\]: ah ylca [4d\]: 白在这里追近了 ] ;B[br]BL[2504.325] ;W[bp]WL[2523.245]C[Principito [3d\]: so he isnt a yuong kid i guess Principito [3d\]: =) mimi [5d\]: naaahh ] ;B[ar]BL[2466.754]C[mimi [5d\]: thats a picture of his go school i think Principito [3d\]: ah* Principito [3d\]: i wondered..quite storng for one so yong lol mimi [5d\]: ya, mr. fan is strong. i would say he is probably the strongest after ge yong fei and yang jing ] ;W[bk]WL[2432.886] ;B[dl]BL[2463.975] ;W[cm]WL[2430.009]C[seanpu [5d\]: 是的 ] ;B[dm]BL[2461.229] ;W[bn]WL[2427.481] ;B[bj]BL[2459.678] ;W[bl]WL[2406.798] ;B[ak]BL[2394.204] ;W[al]WL[2128.026] ;B[aj]BL[2388.296] ;W[dn]WL[2127.195]C[Principito [3d\]: hm ] ;B[oh]BL[2337.398] ;W[nh]WL[2121.311]C[Principito [3d\]: too much cash for B ] ;B[oi]BL[2316.628] ;W[qk]WL[2118.514] ;B[lh]BL[2303.562]C[seanpu [5d\]: 范老师功力比较深厚 ] ;W[ki]WL[1951.205]C[Principito [3d\]: b cant really attack w Principito [3d\]: he is too tihnk Principito [3d\]: thin ] ;B[qj]BL[2259.704] ;W[rj]WL[1941.587] ;B[pk]BL[2253.059] ;W[ql]WL[1922.037] ;B[ri]BL[2249.877] ;W[rk]WL[1907.196] ;B[en]BL[2242.232] ;W[do]WL[1902.199] (;B[ir]BL[2084.119]C[Principito [3d\]: m5? Tigercathy [?\]: 这个小了 吧 TORONTO [4d\]: 小 ylca [4d\]: N11? ] ;W[rh]WL[1882.225]C[Principito [3d\]: nice ylca [4d\]: 臭呀 ] ;B[li]BL[2056.665] ;W[kj]WL[1866.505] ;B[if]BL[1977.356]C[ylca [4d\]: 是我走运嘛 ] ;W[ie]WL[1842.298]C[ylca [4d\]: 本来还可以继续走运的 seanpu [5d\]: 我扎没有这运气,我跟范老师下一盘熟一盘,都怕了 Tigercathy [?\]: 点什么用意 ylca [4d\]: 算错了 ] ;B[mg]BL[1826.091]C[Tigercathy [?\]: W is better ] ;W[kg]WL[1767.379] ;B[si]BL[1814.861]C[Pianist [-\]: dance dance REVOLUTION! Pianist [-\]: oops wrong window mimi [5d\]: roflcopter NeoNemesis [-\]: that's the kind of revolution the americans did to defeat the british in 1776 mariosbank [2d?\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: and the kind of revolution the canadians did to defeat the penguins Mogilny [5d\]: the type the canadians needed to defeat the americans in 1812 Mogilny [5d\]: oh wait... we did do that Mogilny [5d\]: nvm ylca [4d\]: 以为可以断开 ] ;W[me]WL[1656.931]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: i think the city of berkeley is enough to take out the entire of canada NeoNemesis [-\]: and that was the french NeoNemesis [-\]: wiat NeoNemesis [-\]: it was teh british NeoNemesis [-\]: i forget Principito [3d\]: =/ Principito [3d\]: leave us people live in our igloos in peace ] ;B[ne]BL[1751.147]C[Mogilny [5d\]: this is why the canadians kicked me out :( ylca [4d\]: 白搞了不少 ] ;W[mf]WL[1653.625]C[Principito [3d\]: =/ NeoNemesis [-\]: man i always wanted to live in an igloo Principito [3d\]: ^^ mimi [5d\]: you left on your own >> ] (;B[og]BL[1733.174]C[Principito [3d\]: ooh pianist nice ur 9dan Mogilny [5d\]: well it was britain and it's colonies... canada Principito [3d\]: m10? ylca [4d\]: 便宜了很多 ] ;W[ld]WL[1547.825] ;B[lc]BL[1728.66]C[Pianist [-\]: i cant keep 9d for long ] ;W[mc]WL[1530.535]C[Principito [3d\]: lol ] ;B[nd]BL[1725.12]C[Pianist [-\]: 9ds are toooo strong ] ;W[jb]WL[1526.355]C[Principito [3d\]: puh-leeze Principito [3d\]: ^_^ mimi [5d\]: oh magic? ] ;B[jc]BL[1708.371] ;W[ib]WL[1524.77]C[mariosbank [2d?\]: zchen got it once, lost it in 5 minutes ] ;B[ic]BL[1704.881] ;W[hb]WL[1521.068] ;B[gb]BL[1696.578]C[ylca [4d\]: 这里被白揩油了 ] ;W[ga]WL[1517.866]C[Principito [3d\]: lol Principito [3d\]: this was huge... seanpu [5d\]: 白s12损了先收六目,ylca你不亏呀 ylca [4d\]: 要脱先的 seanpu [5d\]: s12损的好大呀 Tigercathy [?\]: 是 ] (;B[mb]BL[1669.32] ;W[ng]WL[1513.515]C[mimi [5d\]: heheh fan pulls through ] ;B[mj]BL[1642.761]C[Principito [3d\]: yup Principito [3d\]: oh well Principito [3d\]: i got a ministers exaM TOMOROW=/ KillerMonk [4d\]: minister's exam? mimi [5d\]: aren't we all in the same drowning boats? Principito [3d\]: examen du ministere KillerMonk [4d\]: ok NeoNemesis [-\]: canada kicked you out only because of your lame hockey skills =\\ Principito [3d\]: =( Principito [3d\]: kai meme pas etudie Principito [3d\]: jai* mimi [5d\]: and for not knowing sufficient french Principito [3d\]: bah NeoNemesis [-\]: i heard they speak canadian in canada Principito [3d\]: only quebec is french NeoNemesis [-\]: but i heard mogilny spoke american Principito [3d\]: well u guys definietly speak american Principito [3d\]: ^^ NeoNemesis [-\]: actually i speak mexican mimi [5d\]: i speak ESL Principito [3d\]: =/ Principito [3d\]: esl? Mogilny [5d\]: mogilny speaks russian mimi [5d\]: ie. broken english' Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: da comrade mimi [5d\]: road fork you? NeoNemesis [-\]: that's the only russian i know Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: i learned it from playing red alert 2 Principito [3d\]: =/ mimi [5d\]: hahaa mimi [5d\]: classic Principito [3d\]: how educational Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: there's also that thing the valkyrie says in starcraft NeoNemesis [-\]: but i forget Principito [3d\]: hehe Principito [3d\]: starcraft is cool NeoNemesis [-\]: u konw what else is cool? NeoNemesis [-\]: canada Principito [3d\]: =/ NeoNemesis [-\]: man i wish i can live in an igloo Principito [3d\]: we are always the ideal target NeoNemesis [-\]: then i wont have to waste money on a refrigerator Principito [3d\]: eh NeoNemesis [-\]: lol Principito [3d\]: or airconditioning NeoNemesis [-\]: "eh" Principito [3d\]: i honestly cant stand it when aericans awnser uhuhhhhhhh Principito [3d\]: when i say thanyou NeoNemesis [-\]: uhhhhhhh Principito [3d\]: lol Principito [3d\]: uhunn* Principito [3d\]: maybe its jsut the north Pianist [-\]: w is thinking hard Mogilny [5d\]: isn't it warm inside an igloo? Principito [3d\]: yes NeoNemesis [-\]: only if you install a heater Pianist [-\]: maybe w is comtemplating the upper right Principito [3d\]: snow is a exxellent inulation NeoNemesis [-\]: i once had an igloo Principito [3d\]: lol pianist Mogilny [5d\]: obviously u and pianist should come to toronto KillerMonk [4d\]: yes , thats why nobody north of the 60 ever goes down to florida in the winter NeoNemesis [-\]: no one likes florida anyways Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: they can't even vote properly ] ;W[pl]WL[1061.183]C[Principito [3d\]: i was in california last summer ] ;B[fm]BL[1635.471]C[Principito [3d\]: its cool down ther NeoNemesis [-\]: hey i was also in california last summer NeoNemesis [-\]: what a coincidence NeoNemesis [-\]: i might have seen you Principito [3d\]: maybe Principito [3d\]: i was ther for the soccer surf cup mariosbank [2d?\]: i was in lancaster Principito [3d\]: its supposed to be a bug tournament Principito [3d\]: big* seanpu [5d\]: p13下012,范老师就梁了 ] ;W[eo]WL[1006.88]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: btw pianist NeoNemesis [-\]: did u see the ending of huyaoyu vs lsd? seanpu [5d\]: 范老师,让tigercathy复盘吧,她是职业1p ] ;B[jk]BL[1603.777]C[Principito [3d\]: cool names lol ] ;W[kk]WL[995.312]C[mariosbank [2d?\]: lsd? Principito [3d\]: i got to go study a bit ] ;B[jl]BL[1585.124]C[Principito [3d\]: peace out Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: what subject? ] ;W[ok]WL[992.685]C[Principito [3d\]: french =/ Principito [3d\]: lol NeoNemesis [-\]: ... NeoNemesis [-\]: learn canadian Principito [3d\]: keke NeoNemesis [-\]: i heard it's more useful in canada TORONTO [4d\]: 我的妙手 ] (;B[ml]BL[1563.873]C[Pianist [-\]: no i didnt Pianist [-\]: what happened? NeoNemesis [-\]: lol huyaoyu shoulda won NeoNemesis [-\]: but lost cuz he lost 6 pts thanks to the ing clock NeoNemesis [-\]: so he lost by 1 pt Pianist [-\]: well ] ;W[lm]WL[961.636]C[Pianist [-\]: thats part of the game KillerMonk [4d\]: yes i was wondering about that result NeoNemesis [-\]: it's still exciting Pianist [-\]: he lost by 5 NeoNemesis [-\]: oh wait NeoNemesis [-\]: it's 5 NeoNemesis [-\]: yeah Tigercathy [?\]: YES KillerMonk [4d\]: i kept on thinking he won NeoNemesis [-\]: dude lee sedol played so bad in the beginning Tigercathy [?\]: time is also importnt ] ;B[ol]BL[1499.98]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: hu yaoyu shoulda eaten lee sedol's dragon in the beginning KillerMonk [4d\]: is there a limit to how many points you can lose to time ? ylca [4d\]: 是 seanpu [5d\]: ylca不要过分谦虚,这怕是跟老杨学的 ] ;W[nl]WL[938.467]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: 6 NeoNemesis [-\]: i think mariosbank [2d?\]: i have the game open, which move to go to? NeoNemesis [-\]: i dunno according to the pro commentary Tigercathy [?\]: yes 6 NeoNemesis [-\]: for a long time the lower right can be killed in ko NeoNemesis [-\]: 胡耀宇应该赢的... KillerMonk [4d\]: ok thx NeoNemesis [-\]: 李世石运气太好了... Tigercathy [?\]: 这不是运气的 问题 mariosbank [2d?\]: neo, yup Tigercathy [?\]: 在应氏杯的 比赛 中时间的 合理运用非常重要 NeoNemesis [-\]: 是没错... NeoNemesis [-\]: 只是感觉胡耀宇输的很可惜而已... NeoNemesis [-\]: 人家古力赢得多漂亮啊... Tigercathy [?\]: 以前也有发生在 林海峰身上的一盘棋,就是 他多罚了 2点,然后 输了 1点的 事情 NeoNemesis [-\]: 林海峰跟谁下? ylca [4d\]: 老杨是谁? ] ;B[ji]BL[1249.567]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 胡耀宇的 长考是 有名的 ,只不过除了应氏杯外,其他的 都可以 读秒的 Tigercathy [?\]: 跟刘昌赫吧,好像 mariosbank [2d?\]: what do you mean points you lose on time? NeoNemesis [-\]: 嗯 NeoNemesis [-\]: 好可惜哦... seanpu [5d\]: 不出事故黑赢了,我判断 ] ;W[kh]WL[899.956]C[seanpu [5d\]: peiyan ylca [4d\]: 他太强了 seanpu [5d\]: s12亏损很大 ylca [4d\]: thanks ylca [4d\]: 谢谢tiger ylca [4d\]: we learn a lot Tigercathy [?\]: 不好意思刚才摁错间出去了 seanpu [5d\]: 老师请继续 TORONTO [4d\]: thanks ylca [4d\]: it's back to you Tigercathy [?\]: 最后黑棋还有一个机会就是 ] (;B[km]BL[1246.271]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: 那些韩国人... NeoNemesis [-\]: 这次希望又是中国人赢 xedover [8k?\]: Ing rules allow for two different types of overtime settings Tigercathy [?\]: 看明天的 了 NeoNemesis [-\]: 嗯 xedover [8k?\]: one is like an absolute setting in which you lose points mariosbank [2d?\]: thx ] ;W[mm]WL[727.67] ;B[gn]BL[1240.55] ;W[em]WL[723.534] ;B[fl]BL[1237.46]C[ylca [4d\]: please review ylca [4d\]: thanks ] ;W[qi]WL[713.688]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 黑棋可以 让白棋吃3个 NeoNemesis [-\]: 哇 NeoNemesis [-\]: 第二轮古力要和崔哲瀚下 NeoNemesis [-\]: 这盘精彩了 Tigercathy [?\]: 是 gopedro [4d\]: hi! NeoNemesis [-\]: 小毒物和大力 mariosbank [2d?\]: 崔哲瀚的英文名字叫什么? NeoNemesis [-\]: choi chel han Tigercathy [?\]: 读起来和 中文的 拼音差不多吧 mariosbank [2d?\]: 谢谢 chenghappy [5d?\]: 常昊:“胡耀宇曾7盘棋都罚满了,每盘罚6点,一共罚了42点。” mariosbank [2d?\]: hard to prononce ] (;B[nk]BL[1071.683] ;W[om]WL[707.499]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 韩语呀 ] ;B[oj]BL[1061.794]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: 谢赫和李昌镐这盘也会很精彩 ] ;W[qg]WL[703.591] ;B[ol]BL[1046.088]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 黑棋的 应法有误 NeoNemesis [-\]: 周鹤洋应该不是小李的对手 mariosbank [2d?\]: 哇 mariosbank [2d?\]: p14 !!! NeoNemesis [-\]: 不过只要古力和谢赫赢得话,中国人应该可以拿下冠军 Tigercathy [?\]: 应该舍掉R10的 3个棋的 mariosbank [2d?\]: 对 ] ;W[nm]WL[532.257] ;B[pf]BL[1038.164] ;W[ih]WL[529.601] ;B[hi]BL[1031.887] ;W[re]WL[523.456] ;B[rd]BL[1028.571] ;W[ii]WL[499.701] ;B[ij]BL[1013.133]C[seanpu [5d\]: ylca铁赢的棋出去了 ] ;W[kn]WL[439.712]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 判断有误 mariosbank [2d?\]: 还是有希望 ] ;B[js]BL[923.336] ;W[jn]WL[400.069] ;B[ls]BL[920.024]C[seanpu [5d\]: 黑才70目呀 seanpu [5d\]: 而且不可能涨了 mariosbank [2d?\]: 白的呢? ] ;W[mr]WL[332.736]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 白棋赢了 seanpu [5d\]: 70好几了,盘面白都多了 seanpu [5d\]: 没有错吧 ] ;B[in]BL[858.742]C[chenghappy [5d?\]: why not r15? ] ;W[hj]WL[264.986]C[seanpu [5d\]: 可惜了,范军赢得侥幸 mariosbank [2d?\]: 哇 ] ;B[jm]BL[836.692] ;W[gj]WL[221.736]C[seanpu [5d\]: 范老师现在老不下紧棋,棋退步得厉害 mariosbank [2d?\]: ouch ] ;B[ko]BL[800.252] ;W[ln]WL[217.388]C[seanpu [5d\]: game over, Fan win mariosbank [2d?\]: by even more seanpu [5d\]: 中间出棋了 mariosbank [2d?\]: the only way is to kill w whole thing ] ;B[im]BL[605.439]C[seanpu [5d\]: 同志吗,周五晚十点(toronto time),大家捧场,我跟老杨溜一盘,是兄弟就支持我,谢谢 ] ;W[fh]WL[207.869] ;B[fg]BL[587.657] ;W[gg]WL[203.29] ;B[fi]BL[581.16] ;W[gi]WL[200.033] ;B[eh]BL[576.839] ;W[hh]WL[196.874] ;B[rf]BL[574.985] ;W[qf]WL[191.173] ;B[qe]BL[572.065]C[seanpu [5d\]: 差许多了,这棋可以收了 ] ;W[kb]WL[172.237] ;B[lg]BL[550.903] ;W[lb]WL[122.212] ;B[lo]BL[538.561] ;W[mo]WL[119.117] ;B[lf]BL[530.307] ;W[ll]WL[92.875] ;B[kf]BL[526.757] ;W[jf]WL[88.172] ;B[nc]BL[525.04] ;W[hl]WL[56.003]C[seanpu [5d\]: 范老师经常下快棋,是不会超时的 ylca [4d\]: thanks TORONTO [4d\]: I am lucky ylca [4d\]: the end move too loose ]) (;B[qh] ;W[oj] (;B[pi] ;W[ni] ;B[lo]C[ylca [4d\]: 中间吃太大了吧? ylca [4d\]: 有20目 Tigercathy [?\]: 比右边的小 seanpu [5d\]: 白得的比黑得的大吧 ylca [4d\]: 嗯, 好像还行,可以下 Tigercathy [?\]: 那没有办法是前面黑棋范的错误 Tigercathy [?\]: 只有这样还可以继续呀 ylca [4d\]: 白略好, 老师来就能赢范军,我肯定输了 Tigercathy [?\]: 实战被白棋吃掉两个肯定不行了 ]) (;B[ni] ;W[pi]C[ylca [4d\]: 我产生了错觉,以为黑可以吃中间两子 ] ;B[rg]C[ylca [4d\]: 啊 Tigercathy [?\]: 这也是 一种下法呀 Tigercathy [?\]: 就是后手 ylca [4d\]: 嗯 seanpu [5d\]: 范老师全盛时很厉害的,大家注意 ylca [4d\]: 范老师捡了俺的勺, 呵呵, 俺不大服气呀。。。 Tigercathy [?\]: 呵呵 Tigercathy [?\]: 棋就复到这里了 seanpu [5d\]: 这次是范老师没有发挥,下次没有便宜了 ylca [4d\]: 谢谢 ylca [4d\]: 嗯,那是当然, Tigercathy [?\]: 祝你们好运 ylca [4d\]: 谢谢复盘讲棋 seanpu [5d\]: 范老师的棋我太了解了 seanpu [5d\]: ylca,下次我们来一盘 ylca [4d\]: 好,等著 Tigercathy [?\]: 下次再见 Tigercathy [?\]: 88 TORONTO [4d\]: bye ylca [4d\]: 我们恐怕下盘就见面了 ylca [4d\]: 88 seanpu [5d\]: 万一我捡老杨一盘? ylca [4d\]: 呵呵 seanpu [5d\]: 还是有些想法的 ylca [4d\]: 祝你好运 seanpu [5d\]: 谢谢 ylca [4d\]: 再见 ]))) (;B[mm]C[seanpu [5d\]: 他老谦虚 ylca [4d\]: 黑好 Tigercathy [?\]: 这个也很大呀 seanpu [5d\]: 是好群众的眼睛是雪亮的 TORONTO [4d\]: p7 Tigercathy [?\]: 可能还是选择这个厚实些,黑不容易输掉 ylca [4d\]: 想稳反而出问题了,还是要无理手才能赢 ylca [4d\]: 白没有收获呀 ] ;W[om] ;B[ln]C[ylca [4d\]: M6就回家了 Tigercathy [?\]: 这样应该黑棋赢了 ])) (;B[oj] ;W[gn] ;B[ml])) (;B[jk])) (;B[ng]C[ylca [4d\]: 嗯 ylca [4d\]: 太臭了呀 ylca [4d\]: 一手补干净的棋 TORONTO [4d\]: 你落后手 Tigercathy [?\]: 该狠的 地方软了 ])) (;B[mi]C[ylca [4d\]: 走这也许就输不出去了 seanpu [5d\]: 连李仙宇都赢了就别说臭了,ylca很厉害 Tigercathy [?\]: 比实战要 好多了 ])) (;B[bq]C[ylca [4d\]: 呀, 好棋,都没有想过 Tigercathy [?\]: 这个怎样啊 ylca [4d\]: 这里走太快了 ]) (;B[cr])) (;B[pg]C[ylca [4d\]: 我从来都是乱来的棋,无理手多。 Tigercathy [?\]: 补在这里应该不错 ylca [4d\]: 那靠下去破了边空吧? ] ;W[nd] ;B[nc] ;W[mc] ;B[mb] ;W[oc] ;B[lc] ;W[od] ;B[me] ;W[mf]C[ylca [4d\]: 嗯,没有棋,想歪了 seanpu [5d\]: tigerwei的棋就是追着你杀,有点向stone33 ] ;B[ne])) (;B[pj]C[ylca [4d\]: 我喜欢乱战,怕他点角 抢地 Tigercathy [?\]: 下一手为什么不在这里开拆呢 ? ] ;W[qc] ;B[qd]C[ylca [4d\]: 那样就四角穿心了 Tigercathy [?\]: 点角不怕呀,活角现在多小呀 TORONTO [4d\]: k4 is bigger ] ;W[pc]C[ylca [4d\]: 我怕攻不到中央、 ] ;B[hq]C[Tigercathy [?\]: 关键是实空呀,又不 光是四个角地喽 ylca [4d\]: 嗯, 是 Tigercathy [?\]: 黑棋两边的空也 很多 呀 ])) (;B[fb]C[ylca [4d\]: 比如,先H15? ylca [4d\]: 哦? Tigercathy [?\]: 黑棋错失良机 ] ;W[de] ;B[cf] ;W[df]C[ylca [4d\]: 这样我想走,但怕白冲 ] ;B[dg] ;W[cg] ;B[bg] ;W[ch] ;B[bd] ;W[bc] ;B[ec] ;W[db]C[ylca [4d\]: 白似乎崩溃了 Tigercathy [?\]: 我 也 没搞清白棋如何 应 ylca [4d\]: B18? Tigercathy [?\]: 所以F18应该可以 ylca [4d\]: 白交棋了 ] ;B[bb]C[TORONTO [4d\]: yes ])) (;W[fc] ;B[gd] ;W[gc] ;B[hd]C[ylca [4d\]: sure, we learn each other ] ;W[cd]C[ylca [4d\]: b14? Tigercathy [?\]: 如果我 是 白棋,我 会选择这样下 ylca [4d\]: en ] ;B[bf] ;W[de]C[TORONTO [4d\]: easy way ] ;B[df] ;W[be] ;B[cf] ;W[jp]C[ylca [4d\]: w interests seanpu [5d\]: 我觉得这样白不错 ylca [4d\]: i see Tigercathy [?\]: 先把角地拿了 再说 Tigercathy [?\]: 很 大呀 seanpu [5d\]: 实战范老师有中套的感觉 KillerMonk [4d\]: this is better for white? chenghappy [5d?\]: much better ylca [4d\]: fan jun just too strong for me, seems Tigercathy [?\]: THIS IS MY CHICE seanpu [5d\]: 这个型可以问一下tom风流秦,他很熟悉 ])) (;B[cd]C[ylca [4d\]: just like the config Tigercathy [?\]: 我可能会选择这里 seanpu [5d\]: 梁喜欢这个,是他的独门功夫 ] ;W[gd]C[TORONTO [4d\]: I lose much at first conner seanpu [5d\]: very sorry Tigercathy [?\]: 哈哈 ylca [4d\]: no problem ] ;B[fc]C[ylca [4d\]: i am not 梁, is 喻量 ]))